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Added new info on Wine, PlayOnLinux and Alien

I've added some new info on Wine, PlayOnLinux and Alien, that I've translated into English from the Dutch version of this document.

Marc.

I see Sturmvogel touched it up a bit, and removed old info on PlayOnLinux. - Thank you both! :)

PS, tip for talk pages: type four tilde in a row and it automatically generates what is below "/Morgan" below:

/Morgan morgano (talk) 17:57, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Blogdrake repo

Have some any reason against add blodrake's repository in this page?
If not i'm glad to write some about it

--katnatek (talk) 03:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes! STOP using names that end with mga7.src.rpm or mga7.rpm
Those are not Mageia packages. If one of those packages causes a problem when upgrading a Mageia installation to the next release, the Mageia bugsquad and others who debug upgrade problems will waste time looking into it until they eventually realize it's a non-mageia package.
For example, change libcurl3-gnutls-7.71.0-1.1bdk.mga7.src.rpm to libcurl3-gnutls-7.71.0-1.1.bdk7.src.rpm and the package names generated from the srpm.
Then the repo would be welcome to be mentioned here. As it is the repo should not be used by anyone other then you, let alone encouraged here.
(above by Davidwhodgins 04:12, 28 February 2021‎. Hint: you can sign using four tilde on a row or the button above.
That is a good point David. Katanek, please forward the suggestion of renaming  :)
However, ".mga*." as part of package name is used by other external projects with Mageia packages too, such as Trinity desktop linked to at https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Desktop_environments#External_sources
I have now, following Davids heads-up, added a note there about the potential debugging and upgrading problems.
I suggest to encourage inclusion of Blogdrake repo here, if a similar note is made with it.

--morgano (talk) 10:36, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Now I added warnings, in new dedicated section #Warnings_on_non-Mageia_packages. They are, like they say, for all kinds of externally fetched packages/files.
I think Blogdrake repo can be added in #External_repos_with_Mageia_packages like the other we already have...

--morgano (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@Davidwhodgins we are going for bdk_mga<version> but beginning with 8, i don't have any intention to rebuild rpms of previous releases, what upgrade issues did you have with bdk pakages, i'm interest in them, maybe i can start to work earlier in the packages for 9 and add a note about that in our site.
Thanks @Morgano, i will do once its ready

--katnatek (talk) 18:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Heroic Game Launcher

I see it is also available as flatpak. Have that been tried on Mageia?

- To me it theoretically seem to solve the update problem, maybe the compatibility problem, and provide sandboxing.

Are there problems with it regarding performance or compatibility?

--morgano (talk) 10:28, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello,

A flatpack solution via discover does indeed exist. The problem is that it's difficult to manage. You have to separate normal updates from flatpack updates. I read an explanation on this subject that I didn't understand. For this reason, I'll only mention the simple rpm solution.

scroll44

The flatpak solution is way more easier to update. And you don't need to break dependencies as with your rpm solution... https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Flatpak#Updating

sturmvogel (talk) 11:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, BUT it updates all the packages not only heroic and it seems to create problem (I read about it).

scroll44 (talk)

Can you back this claim by any facts? And no, it does not update ALL flatpaks if you simply use the right command: "sudo flatpak update --app org.gimp.GIMP" as example only updates Gimp...

sturmvogel (talk) 16:03, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

The command "flatpak update" updates all flatpaks, which is convenient. So does the graphical tools, i.e Discovery or GNOME Software.

If you for some odd reason only want to update only a specific package you can, i.e "flatpak update us.zoom.Zoom". In the graphical tools you can select packages by mouse clicking.

Installing is easy too; once repos are set up, just "flatpak install heroic".

You should get to know Flatpak :)

--morgano (talk) 16:09, 5 November 2023 (UTC)